Could this be the start of the only other double track mainline section in preservation?
I’m pleased to see the Monday gang (presumed, as it usually is) has kept the embankment vegetation in check, and I can't wait to be down in Dec/Jan to attack the awkward sections of buddleia.
It looks as if things are really moving on at Midsomer Norton and I wonder how widely known this is amongst the local population? They have a truly wonderful heritage site developing in their midst, with hopefully more to come.....
There still seems to be an awful lot of junk sitting around the station. It makes the place look a mess to any visitors. I really wish they would move it further down the line and out of sight.
Lack of volunteers david. its a lot lot better than it was. the only mess is on the goods shed road really. tidying mess isnt a priority. there is a deep set toy railway mindset prevailing. some hard working members are trying their best to put it back as it was, others dont care what it looks like - its just a dayout for most and will never attract the popularity it deserves without a strong heritage headed site manager whos not afraid to upset people and put his foot down hard. Its all about quality and image that counts but i'm afraid that isnt a priority here and never has been
looking good!....but there are passing loops on preserved railways longer than this. It wont be a mini great central until the infill is reached with 5000 feet of double track in place and a manicured cess with telegraph poles every 60 yards.
Projects such as this, even ones as well-loved as the real S&D, will always struggle to some extent until a certain "tipping point" is reached. The next stage, in my humble opinion, for the S&D will be running trains. OK, they won't run far but trains, preferably steam hauled behind well-presented coaches such as your Mk 1 shown in photos on this blog, will attract more people, even if only out of idle curiosity. The next stage after that of course is to run to somewhere and that's the real "tipping point." After that, I know that there are grand plans for the whole line and not long ago I was dismissing them as nonsense. Well, I stand corrected. There is no doubt that, if sufficient people want something, they will get it. Most of our very successful heritage railways started with less of a pedigree than the S&D and they have done well. I think the key is to offer something to the public as soon as possible. Progress is being made so well done to those that are making it happen.
"It won’t be a mini great central until the infill is reached with 5000 feet of double track in place and a manicured cess with telegraph poles every 60 yards."
That is exactly what I would like to see (without telegraph poles) and the reason I'm down every year to help clear the embankments. We should forget Somervale Sidings, and reinstate the double track all the way to the infill. With a tidy station etc we would have a heritage site to promote the vision of a returning S&D. We should find another location for storing equipment etc. Tidying mess is a priority, as image is everything these days. Image sells. Just take a look at a 50's lineside railway photograph and the contrast is obvious with today's railway network. Outside of the railway Tesco is an example of a company were image is very important, as it doesn't now look like the old 70's style supermarket. Image is everything.
Well thank you for your support, but I'm only down a few times a year. John Bridges and the Monday gang put in sterling work each week; I just get stuck in when I can. I was only a little'n during the 60's, but I do appreciate the tidy embankments we had then. I believe Midsomer Norton and the S&D should carry that image forward to today. It is an iconic location.
This is nowhere else to service engines and stock so somevale 2 road sidings and 2 road shed with pit, screened with leylandi is unfortunately, essential. but the real key is the lineside look, something which very few preserved railways manage to acheive; no weeds on the 15 or 27 feet ballast bed, ruler straight ballast shoulders, 2 feet wide level ashpath cesses and ruler straight grass banks meeting the cess, with no weeds or junk, just the odd mature tree oh and a pole route, wired, with china insulators is in my view - essential,
i've got to say, as nice as a wired pole route would be, surely whilst funds are short it would be better to concentrate funds on getting a decent length of running line, as this will bring in more people, and more money, for the railway. Then when we get to somewhere such as chilcompton, i'd start an appeal for us to put in the telegraph poles all the way from chilcompton to midsomer, as then it would actually have a use, with all internal phone lines making use of the system, such as sigbox-sigbox, and station comms.
Jeff I wasnt suggesting the manicured double track and pole route be done now, thats just dream world ridiculous.
We have to concentrate on getting the other 3000 feet of down main laid (100 "free" bars from network rail plain nine renewals at £5,100 transport cost)
(and ballasted!!!!!!!!! at £52,500)
and terram matting,
and hiring pennys to grade the 81,000 square feet of trackbed
drainage,
fencing
and then repeating another 100 bars of 60! 113A flat bottom rail at £5100 transport cost and then another £52,000 quids worth of ballast for the 3000 feet of up main from the infill back to the current up main railhead.
oh and not to mention the 2400 extra concrete sleepers needed ontop of the 1700 we acquired in November 2002.
Absolutely fantastic..
ReplyDeleteCould this be the start of the only other double track mainline section in preservation?
I’m pleased to see the Monday gang (presumed, as it usually is) has kept the embankment vegetation in check, and I can't wait to be down in Dec/Jan to attack the awkward sections of buddleia.
It looks as if things are really moving on at Midsomer Norton and I wonder how widely known this is amongst the local population? They have a truly wonderful heritage site developing in their midst, with hopefully more to come.....
Knoxy
There still seems to be an awful lot of junk sitting around the station. It makes the place look a mess to any visitors. I really wish they would move it further down the line and out of sight.
ReplyDeleteLack of volunteers david. its a lot lot better than it was. the only mess is on the goods shed road really. tidying mess isnt a priority. there is a deep set toy railway mindset prevailing. some hard working members are trying their best to put it back as it was, others dont care what it looks like - its just a dayout for most and will never attract the popularity it deserves without a strong heritage headed site manager whos not afraid to upset people and put his foot down hard. Its all about quality and image that counts but i'm afraid that isnt a priority here and never has been
ReplyDeletelooking good!....but there are passing loops on preserved railways longer than this. It wont be a mini great central until the infill is reached with 5000 feet of double track in place and a manicured cess with telegraph poles every 60 yards.
ReplyDeleteProjects such as this, even ones as well-loved as the real S&D, will always struggle to some extent until a certain "tipping point" is reached. The next stage, in my humble opinion, for the S&D will be running trains. OK, they won't run far but trains, preferably steam hauled behind well-presented coaches such as your Mk 1 shown in photos on this blog, will attract more people, even if only out of idle curiosity. The next stage after that of course is to run to somewhere and that's the real "tipping point." After that, I know that there are grand plans for the whole line and not long ago I was dismissing them as nonsense. Well, I stand corrected. There is no doubt that, if sufficient people want something, they will get it. Most of our very successful heritage railways started with less of a pedigree than the S&D and they have done well. I think the key is to offer something to the public as soon as possible. Progress is being made so well done to those that are making it happen.
ReplyDelete"It won’t be a mini great central until the infill is reached with 5000 feet of double track in place and a manicured cess with telegraph poles every 60 yards."
ReplyDeleteThat is exactly what I would like to see (without telegraph poles) and the reason I'm down every year to help clear the embankments. We should forget Somervale Sidings, and reinstate the double track all the way to the infill. With a tidy station etc we would have a heritage site to promote the vision of a returning S&D. We should find another location for storing equipment etc. Tidying mess is a priority, as image is everything these days. Image sells. Just take a look at a 50's lineside railway photograph and the contrast is obvious with today's railway network. Outside of the railway Tesco is an example of a company were image is very important, as it doesn't now look like the old 70's style supermarket. Image is everything.
Knoxy
Knoxy, you are bang on there. Well done for all your hard work and effort!
ReplyDeleteWell thank you for your support, but I'm only down a few times a year. John Bridges and the Monday gang put in sterling work each week; I just get stuck in when I can. I was only a little'n during the 60's, but I do appreciate the tidy embankments we had then. I believe Midsomer Norton and the S&D should carry that image forward to today. It is an iconic location.
ReplyDeleteKnoxy
This is nowhere else to service engines and stock so somevale 2 road sidings and 2 road shed with pit, screened with leylandi is unfortunately, essential. but the real key is the lineside look, something which very few preserved railways manage to acheive; no weeds on the 15 or 27 feet ballast bed, ruler straight ballast shoulders, 2 feet wide level ashpath cesses and ruler straight grass banks meeting the cess, with no weeds or junk, just the odd mature tree oh and a pole route, wired, with china insulators is in my view - essential,
ReplyDeletenick
i've got to say, as nice as a wired pole route would be, surely whilst funds are short it would be better to concentrate funds on getting a decent length of running line, as this will bring in more people, and more money, for the railway. Then when we get to somewhere such as chilcompton, i'd start an appeal for us to put in the telegraph poles all the way from chilcompton to midsomer, as then it would actually have a use, with all internal phone lines making use of the system, such as sigbox-sigbox, and station comms.
ReplyDeleteJeff I wasnt suggesting the manicured double track and pole route be done now, thats just dream world ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteWe have to concentrate on getting the other 3000 feet of down main laid (100 "free" bars from network rail plain nine renewals at £5,100 transport cost)
(and ballasted!!!!!!!!! at £52,500)
and terram matting,
and hiring pennys to grade the 81,000 square feet of trackbed
drainage,
fencing
and then repeating another 100 bars of 60! 113A flat bottom rail at £5100 transport cost and then another £52,000 quids worth of ballast for the 3000 feet of up main from the infill back to the current up main railhead.
oh and not to mention the 2400 extra concrete sleepers needed ontop of the 1700 we acquired in November 2002.
Nick